This folding iPhone concept makes the Samsung Galaxy Z Flip look like a toy

This is how Apple works ? Just follow the other brands and improvise the new features ?

Nice concept though… what do you think?

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I’m wondering if Apple will eventually release one

Apple average 2 years behind Android innovation so as folding phones happened last year from Android I’d not expect Apple to release til next year.

I can though see this being a sure thing technology, it makes either your phone smaller or a tablet you can pocket.

The 3rd iteration of folding in Android will be in a year’s time so that’s when I expect sales to take off as most bugs worked out, assuming enough people buy folding Android phones this year to give volume real-world feedback.

The Moto folding phone gets feedback its external display to make use folded merged with Samsung feedback means I expect a folding phone to have large external display.

Battery technology is crucial as the space given up to hinges takes away from battery space. That is probably one of the gateway changes to folding phones.

Example side by side

4380 vs 6100 mah, 40% bigger battery not having a hinge.

Hinges and its impact on battery well seen here

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Yea I will probably hold off until then. I’m not a big fan of folding phones yet but as they start perfecting them I’ll probably like to at least try one of them

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Imagine a 2021 of:

  • a 3rd gen folding phone, not eyewateringly expensive, and good reviews
  • recharges in 20 minutes with Graphene cells, cell lasts 4 years.
  • docks to a 14" laptop
  • own a single 60W small charger

Then it’s the end of iphone, iPad, MacBook, Windows laptops and Chromebook. Just an Android phone, shell laptop, Anker charger and a Powerline III as the one cable you need for years.

The feedback from Samsung flip users is they use the opened phone in Landscape phone and don’t like speakers on one side, so you’d expect speakers on both ends. The feedback from Moto flip users is they like the bigger external display.

Won’t happen for a long time. People who need more power will still go for a PC, or a laptop.

A lot of people like to game as well, which isn’t the same on mobile (yet).

I know, just joshing. :smiley: Interesting to see which way this pivots. For people to spend $2000-$3000 a year in technology, if that sustains.

These two opposite arguments:


  • I bought this really expensive $1300 phone with 8GB-12GB RAM, its got really fast cpu, gpu and lots of storage. I should really get the most out of my investment
  • I don’t need to spend on expensive laptop or games console or PC, just use what I bought in the phone. So a docking station $250.


  • phones are too expensive, I just need one to look up things when moving, and for talking, get the just-good-enough last years model $300
  • my phone is not that powerful
  • I’ll get a PC, or a laptop $1200.

That would be just beautiful . Seems like a long shot but hopefully we can get phone with similar specs you mentioned

Both arguments have equal chances to become true in near future. But time will tell which way we tend to lean more… :thinking:

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Look at the S20 Ultra 512gb 16gb Ram and then look at 5 years ago and then 10 years ago.
It will be flipping mad what we will be seeing in the next decade.
55 inch 4K smart TV is now under 500 quid.
Getting foldable screens better is just a minor bump

I value your opinion so highly, I have to ask you to expand as I do not understand your view.

Big TVs cheap is a given, that’s commodity market, but your other points?

People are spending more on a tiny 6" unfolded device than they spent on a 55" device?

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Apple will release a product when the technology is ready. Folding phones are not yet ready as evidenced by the massive flops by Samsung and Motorola.

Samsung, LG, and most Korean manufacturers (and Chinese as well) love to be first to market. Sometimes when they do, they cut corners and make huge mistakes (Note 7 battery; Fold design). Even still, speed trumps quality. This can be good for consumers as they get to experience new technology more quickly, but consumers suffer as well since the experience can be subpar.

Apple, on the other hand, is much more deliberate. Sure there is the original iPhone which created the touchscreen smartphone category (hence every Android phone is copying the iPhone), but in terms of features, they are generally slower to market. They won’t release a 5G iPhone until 5G is supported more widely, just like they did with 3G and 4G. This can be good for consumers as they generally get a higher quality experience, but consumers suffer as well since they often have to wait longer.

I don’t think one is necessarily better than the other. Their strategies work for the respective companies.


Utter cowards.

Innovation is incredibly hard.

You have to fail many many times to eventually succeed.

You cannot predict what will suceed or fail. You have to fail many times before you succeed.

Product managers, consultants, cannot fully know what will work, you only know by experimentation, try, fail, try again, fail again, try again, succeed.

Trying is expensive.

Only the big can afford to fail.

The unique combination within Apple is it both rich, so can afford to fail, and it doesn’t.


I fully agree with Apple.

You will lose shareholder value.

You risk your share price.

Much better is let others try, fail, try, fail, and then once they succeed then release and make maximum money.

Wrap that cowardice up with patents, lawsuits, give it a name beginning with an “i” and spend a lot on marketing.

What I actually think. Just let an open market of competition, and consumers will filter out the bad. The Internet. Duh.


But in a few years that tiny device will be what the 55 inch 4k tv is today, cheap and cheerful.
I guess that’s what I meant, tech advance snowballing like mad and prices dropping quicker and quicker as smarter and fancier becomes the norm more and more

That’s an open trade secret of Apple and they are successful doing it over and over…

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It’s not about failing. It’s about the user experience. For example, Apple is fully capable of making a completely sealed iPhone with no ports and rely 100% on wireless charging. But they won’t do that right now, not because of the fear of failure, but because the user experience will be terrible. Wireless charging is painfully still slow. Once the wireless charging speed improves to something comparable to charging with 18W PD (like 80% charge in 1 hour), then they will probably release it.

You find merits in trying, trying, and failing. I don’t. Which is why I often side with Apple when it comes to innovation, even though I use more Android products than Apple products. Like I said earlier, I don’t think one is necessarily better than the other. We just value different things when it comes to innovation.

" The test used a modified version of the Mi 10 Pro with a 4,000 mAh battery and the new wireless charger managed to top up 57% of the battery in 20 minutes and reached a full charge in just 40 minutes."

So this year in Android?

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The problem with ‘concepts’ is that concepts are easy to make without having to you know actually build something that people have to use. I too can make a ‘concept’ of a battery that is thin, light, and will run your phone for a week.

I think useful, if only to stimulate discussion if you’d be possibly interested.

Silicon Valley, 95% of ideas fail, but those 5% have been popular.
A bit of random does you good.:clinking_glasses: